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  • #24700
    Kaosubaloo
    Participant

    http://boingboing.net/2012/07/10/sopa-is-back-lamar-smith-tryi.html

    Of course, while this is certainly a problem for all my American firends, there is also thing piece:

    http://boingboing.net/?p=170057

    …Which is basically the same thing for Canada & Europe, only if anything even more scummy because it’s trying to completely dodge around the EU politics.

    Guess who, it's Kaosubaloo!

    #24705
    Finakechi
    Participant

    God damnit…. man I was 100% that these things were going to get passed the first time they came around. When they were both smacked down I allowed myself to be a little optimistic.

    Motherfuckers.

    #24721
    Spacevagrant
    Participant

    This is going to be a continual battle. They won’t stop until they can force their will upon the masses. Unfortunately they will win eventually, either by wearing down the opposition or by sneaking it in. All we can do is fight and keep fighting and hope that by the time something like this does get approved it’s so watered down that it won’t matter much.

    #24724
    Kaosubaloo
    Participant

    Here is how I look at it: Most of these bills are the result of the Entertainment industry lobbying for Orwellian controls so as to prevent people from moving onto bigger better things. This is not something that is going to stop. HOWEVER, what will change with time, if we can delay their heavy-handed idiocy for long enough, is 2 things:

    First of all, more reasonable laws will eventually be enacted that will make their short-sited medium-killers harder to gain tracking (both because there will be a better alternative and because they will presumable have some reasonable protection). Second of all, and this is the real killer, some of them will start to get a clue as to the potential of the stuff they are trying to shut down. This seems far off but there already exists plenty of example cases that PROVE that potential. What all this means is that all that’s left is the hardest part: getting the idiots in charge to take their collective heads of of there asses long enough to see this is the case.

    Case in point: http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/2/3130837/declaration-of-internet-freedom

    That’s just the first seemingly-accurate link I found on the subject, but in the wake of SOPA & ACTA people started moving for trying to implement something like this, which basically boils down to protection from ignorant politicians. (Of course you still need to deal with he CORRUPT Politicians, as is definitely the case in Canada, but you need to start somewhere)

    Guess who, it's Kaosubaloo!

    #24738
    Klopfenpop
    Participant

    Thanks for posting this!

    I ran a panel at PAX Prime last year about derivative art called “Making Art From Art” and we discussed everything from remixes, VGM, and sampling to fanfic, fanart, and cosplay.

    This year, we’ll be focusing on the shifting and potential legal culture in regards to derivative art. Any input is welcome!

    http://klopfenpop.bandcamp.com

    #24749
    Raven
    Member

    Hey Kao! Now we can listen to song samples on the internet in Canada legally. Woop dee hoop dee woop herp derp.

    All the fun parts of life are optional.

    #24750
    Kaosubaloo
    Participant

    @Raven

    So in otherwords I’m still still illegal. Good to know.

    Guess who, it's Kaosubaloo!

    #24785
    Finakechi
    Participant

    To be entirely honest it is insane to me that the concept of lobbying isn’t illegal. I mean it is just absurd.

    #24792
    Raven
    Member

    Heck, the entire concept of companies being considered ‘persons’ and having rights is insane.

    All the fun parts of life are optional.

    #24794
    Finakechi
    Participant

    @Raven oh Christ tell me about it. That is where all this insane corporate power shit started.

    #24795

    The world is fucked up. Always has been.

    For the Commonwealth!

    #24796
    Raven
    Member

    Let’s all nod in agreement and then do nothing about it.

    All the fun parts of life are optional.

    #24797
    Finakechi
    Participant

    @Raven Sounds good

    #24923
    Kaosubaloo
    Participant

    Just so that this topic isn’t ALL about getting down on ourselves:

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/07/death-sopa-was-not-fluke-three-reasons-why-elected-officials-should-endorse

    Guess who, it's Kaosubaloo!

    #35343
    Cat
    Keymaster

    So… that TPP thing is what it appeared to be: http://cms.fightforthefuture.org/tpp/

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