Nerdyshow Tekkit Server Discussion
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September 2, 2012 at 12:57 pm #25984
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InactiveAlso, please white list this server
September 2, 2012 at 2:41 pm #25985Kaosubaloo
ParticipantI (still) don’t believe in Whitelisting (the best way to get new players is for anyone to freely join the server)), but I will admit that a Greylist *might* be worth considering.
Guess who, it's Kaosubaloo!
September 2, 2012 at 8:18 pm #25988Spacevagrant
ParticipantI say that if this happens and we have both servers running then White list the Tekkit server and leave the old one open. If you’ve proven your a trusted member of the community then you can get on the Tekkit server and play with the Nuclear Reactors.
September 2, 2012 at 11:22 pm #25989Anonymous
Inactivethat, nukes, that
September 3, 2012 at 4:59 pm #26007Fzn
ParticipantHell yes! 😎
September 9, 2012 at 9:57 pm #26066Spacevagrant
ParticipantAfter doing some research I don’t think that I, in good conscious can back the use of this mod pack. It seems that the creators of the pack have not received permission from some of the original authors of the mods to include them in this pack. Information as to what some of the problems with the Tekkit pack mod authors and pack creators can be found here.
http://www.feed-the-beast.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5
This website is also for a new mod pack that is being created by the actual creators of the mods themselves and includes many of the mods that are in Tekkit pack and many that are not included. This is great because the Mod creators themselves get credit for the mods and you also get the benefit of having support from the original mod authors. If sometime down the road we plan on starting a server with a mod pack on it I would say this is the one we go with.
September 12, 2012 at 8:53 am #26097Wage
ParticipantI agree with Spacevagrant. The possibilities for grief-related sabotage on Tekkit servers are so much greater than on vanilla MC. One reactor bank can blow a hole down to the bedrock. I’d leave the Tekkit (or whichever pack you decide to go with) server for trusted community members, and have a section of the forums for applications to that server. I understand your stance against whitelisting, but with the potential for ONE player to take the entire server build off the rails it might be a good thing to consider. There are many, many ways to destroy things in Tekkit. The damage you can do with one mining laser alone, while much less than with fiddling with a reactor or a TNT nuke pile, is still significant. I’d just hate to see the frustration level rise to the point where dedicated builders decide to quit, repent and slack off.
Barring a general whitelist, we may want to have a probationary period for new and untrusted members. In the end, griefers are always found and banned, so the issue isn’t so much prevention of such activities as it is damage control. You can destroy a lot more in a far shorter time in Tekkit. That’s really all that I’m saying.
September 12, 2012 at 9:48 pm #26105Flawedspirit
ParticipantAt the very least, tinkering with ANY fissile material near populated areas should only be allowed by trusted (and trained) “nuclear engineers” that can demonstrate knowledge of how to build and operate a safe and stable reactor. (You know, like in real life.)
Everyone knows what causing a reactor to go all China Syndrome can do to the land, so you know I am not even joking about this.
Also, would this server have creative mode enabled for trusted builders by default? If not, the reactor thing will be a non-issue, due to the fact that the materials required for such a project would take forever to amass.
Despite what my username says, I am certifiably flawless.
Please echo "all complaints and suggestions" > /dev/null.September 12, 2012 at 11:47 pm #26108Kaosubaloo
ParticipantOkay, so, a few things…
@The Tekkit/Feed The Beast/Whatever thing: basically I did not know that. My opinion of the situation is that the Tekkit people are being rather more jerkish then they really need to but also that they are basically doing nothing wrong. That said, Feed The Beast offers me everything that I, at least, was looking for in tekkit (and more besides) so I see no reason we couldn’t use that as our aim-for goal instead of Tekkit.
@The White List thing: Basically, I’ve thought it over and I think that the best option is some sort of gray list. I very much dislike out and out white-listing people, but given that such as server WOULD likely be run in parallel to the current one (if there’s even server space for that? I don’t know) and that it IS easier to screw things up in tekkit (though not so much in Feed The Beast) I can see the benefits of, for example, punting unlisted players into adventure mode (can’t break or place blocks).
@The creative mode thing: What I can say is that I am not, personally, interested in being in Creative mode on a whatever mod-pack server I end up with. Ideally I’d be able to change back and forth for the purpose of things like building underwater domes, but in the event of needing to choose 1 I think they all hold a better experience in survival mode; doubly so if we get some sort of company/faction thing going.
@Actually talking to Cap (and/or Jon) about this: It hasn’t happened yet. The timeline for it is soonish. The main concerns are running the server in the first place (no idea if the current hardware could support a second server) and administration (without going into details, they really need a “Minecraft-person” for dealing with the server and all of the best choices that I am aware of do not live in Florida. Plus also needless to say they are both super busy, so that’s a thing as well.
Guess who, it's Kaosubaloo!
September 13, 2012 at 5:06 pm #26120Wage
ParticipantWell, barring being able to run another server in parallel, it may be feasible to set up a sort of el-cheapo subscription plan? Figure out the hosting plans for, say, a ten or fifteen slot server and work it out per person?
I salvaged an old HP workstation from a hospital dumpster awhile back that I was thinking would make a nice MC server box, but I haven’t had the spare coin to invest in ECC RAM to see if it’s worth chucking parts into. Could be some time before that would be an option, as there’s no such thing as cheap ECC DDR2. Still not a bad little box, all things considered …
September 13, 2012 at 11:48 pm #26127Spacevagrant
ParticipantUnemployment is a bitch and the reason why if a subscription fee is put in place I will not be able to play on the server 🙁
September 15, 2012 at 8:37 am #26140Wage
ParticipantAh, I hear ya. Sorry, just trying to figure out ways to make it sustainable in the long run, since we can’t really ask the Nerdy Show to foot the bill for all of our crazy ideas. I figured running a Tekkit server on the same box as the SOA would probably lag ’em both all to hell.
I found a hosting service that promises a 25 slot server for ten a month which also states explicitly that they support Tekkit. The downshot is that it appears that the servers are hosted auf Deutschland. However, if we can find between ten and twenty dedicated players and split the bill, we’re talking a between fifty cents and a buck a month per user. Even if you don’t want to charge a sub fee, just set up a donation jar. I’d look to keep three months of operating revenue in the hopper and maybe kick the rest toward the Nerdy Show fund.
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