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    Hey everyone! It’s been a while, but we’re about to record the next book club.
    In our previous episode, More Stories About Sex in the Future we announced the next book we’re reading is Orson Scott Card’s Ender’s Shadow, a companion novel to Ender’s Game.

    Curious if anyone read along with us on Ender’s Shadow. If not, it’s not too late:
    Pick it up here: Ender’s Shadow by Orson Scott Card

    If so, feel free to post thoughts and comments here!


    Still haven’t managed to read this yet, but since I’ve read the first 3 books of the “main” series I can probably comment on that at least (That’s Ender’s Game, Speaker for the Dead and Xenocide for those of you playing at home).

    I completely agree with Brandon in the last episode that Ender’s Game is an amazing story and highly recommended for reading by everyone who can read, but I personally loved Speaker for the Dead too, even though it ends up being a radically different book. You should probably stop reading the series after that though…

    I was a little surprised to hear that Brandon didn’t the Shadow series after the first book. I thought that Bean’s story was supposed to be the good series after Ender’s story stopped being good?

    Cassie Muldrow

    I just started on Book Club due to the Deleted Riverworld scenes I just got as a backer. Almost done with More Stories About Spaceships and Cancer, but I can fast forward and do Ender’s Shadow. I’ve also read the other three in the series. Loved them all. Card likes to include a lot of anthropological topics in his books. Which I find really fascinating. My favorite series of his is the Homecoming series. It’s 5 books long, but a great read. I’ll get Shadow done in the next couple days!

    Colin Peterson

    I don’t know what Brandon is talking about concerning Speaker either. I loved it. I actually think that its as good of a book as Ender’s Game in a lot of ways. Can’t wait to hear what you guys (and I’m talking to everyone here) thought of Ender’s Shadow. Cap and I already have had some discussion ‘off camera’ about it and the recording should be fun with Brandon in the mix. We record on Saturday, the 8th–so if you have comments that you want made on the air, post ’em here…

    Hatching Phoenix

    I haven’t read Ender’s Shadow. I find something vaguely distasteful about the way Mr. Card has revisited previous material rather than releasing wholly new works. I find Mr. Card’s public statements much more obviously distasteful, but maybe that is a discussion for another day.

    "You don't write because you want to say something, you write because you have something to say."
    --F. Scott Fitzgerald


    @Hatching Phoenix And what a crummy person he is is exactly why if I need to buy a Card book I do it second-hand at a local used book seller.


    I was a big fan of Ender’s Game in high school, but ever got past Speaker for the Dead, which had some interesting concepts but was underwhelming after the fun that was Ender’s Game.

    However, The goodness that was Ender’s Game led me to look into some of his other works only led to further disappointment, for the most part.

    Of particular offense were his “Empire” series of books, which basically laid out an alternate present in which, all else being the same, evil liberal senators led an armed coup d’etat to depose GWB and took over the country with a “radical leftist” army. The protagonist (a special forces soldier, naturally) and his band of right-thinking neoconservative resistance fighters then worked to save the country. I have no particular problem with classic conservative thinking and have many friends who are, but this work was pretty blatant neoconservative political masturbation filled with all manner of needless exposition and stereotyping.

    You touched on pretty much most of the complaints I have with the shadow books. There is some fun reading there, but they take away a lot of the wonder of the original.

    Courage TFM

    Sage Zer0

    Always wanted to read Ender’s Game but just never did, currently working on the Thrawn Trilogy (which needs to be a real miniseries) and am about halfway through Wizard: The Life and Times of Nikola Tesla (whenever I get around to reading more of it.

    Also, Cape Fuhrer needs to be a thing :mrgreen:

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