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  • #21964

    ViralDemon
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    With the advent of the new forums, I no longer know what we are watching this week. Anduin, what is next on the list?

    #21966

    Anonymous

    Sorry, The last topic was deleted in the great move.

    Week of: 5/7-5/14
    Show to watch: Ghost Hunt Episodes 1-8
    Next Week: Ghost Hunt Episodes 9-16

    Everyone can report in here to summarize how they feel about Code: Geass season 1. When does everyone think we should return for season 2?

    Say your farewells to the Geass and prepare for the Ghost Hunt.

    #21972

    Ghouleh
    Participant

    Overall I prefer Season 2 to Season 1, but I must say that I am very picky as to which animes I like (hence my beef with Gurren Lagann, for example), but Code Geass’ first season inflamed me quite a bit at the time. It was all-around good for me, up until Episode 22.

    Kill all Japanese.

    Damn. Minds were blown, tears were shed, Internets were given.

    And sure, I vote for coming back for Season 2, eventually.

    The Fishwatcher

    #21992

    Raven
    Member

    Overall, I prefer Season 1 to Season 2. First, Season 1 struck me as more serious. The scale and stakes of an alternate history Japanese insurrection felt reasonable and more relatable to me than the world wide theater to which events escalate in Season 2. It also allowed for more focus on each character’s decision making process, through logic or emotions, especially Lelouch’s friends and how their well being and safety clash with his crusade. The Knightmares were firmly grounded and, with their gritty design and mundane weapon arsenal, served as actual tools to their pilots, not plot devices, allowing battles to involve a semblance of clever strategy.

    A few episodes into Season 2, however, near every episode starts either revolving around some ridiculous tech upgrade in an arms race between the Lancelot and the Gurren or concluding in some WHAMMY revelation or plot twist, and Knightmare battles devolve into flashy aerial lightshows with lasers and energy wings. And a slew of new characters are introduced, and I agree they are interesting in their own right, but they hardly get any screen time or development beyond serving their purpose to the main plot. And speaking of screen time and development, the whole arc explaining the Emperor’s agenda with Geass felt stupidly botched, felt like wasted potential that could have spanned several episodes or sub arcs but was wrapped within 2 or 3. And more than half the costumes and ships and knightmares are ridiculously overdesigned. I hated all of this. Then episodes 22-23-24-25 redeemed everything.

    All in all, what I really think is that the second season would have gained much by 1) not doing a reboot over the first few episodes 2) toning down the tech 3) being split into a third season to give more time for events to pan out organically and generate less of a wham quotient per episode. It would also have allowed to devote more time to explaining Geass itself. 4) Erase Rolo from continuity entirely.

    All the fun parts of life are optional.

    #21999

    Ghouleh
    Participant

    Not sure if we should talk about Season 2 specifically here, but what the hell!
    I agree with most everything you said. The only thing I’m not completely supportive of is splitting it into a third season. If those other three points you so kindly exposed were followed to the letter, there would be less material, and so more filler would have to be crammed in between arc episodes. And God knows we don’t need any more.

    Okay, so, about the Emperor’s plot. I could care less about it. As I went from episode to episode, I came to expect that sort of grand, absurd, deus-ex-machina-y thing that is typical of many animes. I didn’t care that it wasn’t well executed, because such things generally aren’t anyway, and they more often than not are irrelevant as to why I like a series.
    What BLEW MY GODDAMN MIND was that after that was done, I was like “All right, so that was a good series.” and I saw that there were FOUR MORE EPISODES, and those, like you said, redeemed everything. Ridiculously escalating mech wars aside, those four episodes were what made Code Geass really unforgettable for me.

    The Fishwatcher

    #22025

    Raven
    Member

    As far as character focus and attention to explaining plot details are concerned, I think I was spoiled by Fullmetal Alchemist being the first anime I ever watched. Fifty plus episodes of impeccable build up and continuity, with very dark themes and events that yet do not get in the way of all the endearing or funny or simply blood boiling awesome parts.

    And Season 1 of Code Geass had some of that “seriousness”, but I felt it took a back seat during Season 2 in favor of flashier anime trappings. Still a very watchable series, mind you, one of the best over the last few years, but it didn’t head the way I had hoped it would, narratively and stylistically.

    All the fun parts of life are optional.

    #22033

    ViralDemon
    Participant

    I pretty much spoke my piece on season one as a whole in the past thread, but for the new forums, I shall say it again. I really enjoyed season one and two of Code Geass, even with the Mech escalation being as bad as it was. I found most of the characters to be pretty likable, and I really enjoyed the final bunch of episodes of season 2 as they made all the dumb shit that had happened worth it.

    #22055

    Anonymous

    I haven’t seen season 2 yet. This is the first viewing of Code:Geass to me and I can see the Machina wars escalating badly in the near future. He seemed pretty confidant before getting all the new tech that he could carry out his coup, but that might have been apart of his plan to get some of the new technology all along.

    Character development wise, I think the core characters are focused pretty well. Maybe not the best but enough that you can be emotionally attached to them. Everyone else is like a gold nugget blurring past at the speed of light. You know they are important and there is a lot to them but there is no way you learn about them. Euphy was one though that was in the picture just long enough to get a good attachment to her and then dread what was about to happen when you heard the Geass activate. I knew something was up when Lelouch about lost control of the Geass protecting a kid being attached and when Euphy stated that everyone must pay for their horrible actions. Those were two strong foreshadowing points.

    *Spoilers* Lastly, I have been looking for how many evil things Lelouch has been doing, and I am a little disappointed. Sure his favorite use of the Geass is to tell someone to commit suicide, but he hasn’t done much else very evil other than not caring. The land slide for example was simply bigger than he first thought and he didn’t care. Evil, yes, but it wasn’t intentional so it looses its value. The “Kill all Japanese” was an accident also. His reaction could be counted up for borderline hysteria as a result of what was going on. The only other remarkable evil thing he did was using the Japanese ship as a decoy. That was evil, but at the time he saw them as much of a threat as anyone else and it was simply killing two birds with one stone.

    “WTF” Count: 2 – Geass activated
    – Episode 12 (Nina’s fanfic)
    “Aw Shit” Count: 1 – “Kill all Japanese”

    #22064

    Raven
    Member

    Collapsing the earthquake proofing layers was pretty dastardly, if not outright evil. But the maniacal laughter while he does it pretty much seals the deal. But yeah. Lelouch is never outright evil. Opportunist and manipulative, yes, but not evil. Every thing he ever does has legitimate motivation backing it, and collateral damage usually happens through no fault of his own. But after Euphie’s death, he does go slightly off the deep end, i.e killing Darlton while he has him under control and outright lying to Suzaku to trap him.

    All the fun parts of life are optional.

    #22076

    Ghouleh
    Participant

    @anduin

    You think Lelouch isn’t evil enough? Just you WAIT until Season 2. I love it for a good reason.
    And Raven, yes, Lelouch has noble motivations for his many, many crimes, but motivations alone cannot justify what he’s done. That’s a very dangerous “ends justify the means” view. What I like about Lelouch, in my view of him as a Villain Protagonist, is quite simply that he doesn’t care that he will go down in history as one of the worst people that ever lived, so long as he makes his ends meet. What he does isn’t justifiable, but he does it anyway because he knows that it’s what he needs to do. He has a firm, goal-driven will. That’s what matters for me.

    …And his laughter is just gravy.

    Also Raven, your first anime was FMA? Damn, son. Way to spoil most everything after it.

    The Fishwatcher

    #22100

    Anonymous

    Hey, FMA is a good gateway drug to the anime world. Beats mine anyways, Sailormoon. I didn’t watch it for THOSE reasons though, it simply came on every time I tried to watch DBZ.

    I love Lelouch as a villain but not because he is pure evil in season 1, but because he is becoming evil in season 1. It started as a bad guy with good intentions but could not shake how little he cared about the cost of his actions. Through about 3 or 4 events the innocence he had died off as he realized the consequences and decided to continue with his actions. That makes the maniacal laughter so much better. It sounds like it is from someone that doesn’t care about anything that stands in his way and he has the power to prove no one can.

    #60533

    ali rafami
    Participant

    the best anime of this week just Shokugeki no Souma: San no Sara – Toutsuki Ressha-hen!
    Shokugeki-no-Souma

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